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should i have shoved here?

i tend to think this was bad because i was only really getting it in against hands that cush me.

my image was pretty wild, and villain was 27/19/4.3 over only 41 hands.

As i said i think this was bad but im still playing so i thought you guys might give me some opinions as i havent been over to go over it precisely just yet.

 

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem • 5 Players

UTG poket_elevens $60.70  
CO nurAx_The_One $100.75  
BTN Hero $147.30  
SB SpikeLeeNikes $71.75  
BB imonyoutube $100.75  
  • Pre-Flop ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is BTN
  • Ad 9d
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, imonyoutube raises to $4.75, Hero calls $3.25

  • Flop ($9.75, 2 players)
  • 6d Ah 4d
imonyoutube checks, Hero bets $6, imonyoutube raises to $23.50, Hero goes all-in $142.55, imonyoutube calls $72.50

  • Turn ($248.30, 2 players)
  • 8h
  • River ($248.30, 2 players)
  • 3s
  • Final Pot: $201.75

  • imonyoutube shows
  • As Ac
  • Hero shows
  • Ad 9d

  • imonyoutube wins $198.75 ( won +$98 )
  • Hero wins $46.55 ( lost -$100.75 )

 


should i have shoved here?

This deep, I wouldn't play my hand fast. With 100bbs I probably would, but right now you have a wild image so he's never gonna fold AK. I'd try to hit 2 pair or the flush as cheap as possible before going for stacks. I'd check the flop behind because all your bet achieves is folding out underpairs. If you have him beat, you have a TON of equity so you don't have to protect your hand. Betting gets action from hands that are not gonna fold to the shove.

 

should i have shoved here?

Why do I only get to see X instead of pictures. Im missing what ?

 

should i have shoved here?

me too, this convertor work fine a few weeks ago for me

 

should i have shoved here?

SpidsDk wrote:
Why do I only get to see X instead of pictures. Im missing what ?

LOL, what ? go to the eye doctor...

 

should i have shoved here?

Few things

1) We're too deep to stack off here since his entire stack off range has TP beat.

2) Call flop C/R, fold to a turn brick

3) Bet-sizing.  Flop bet is okay, but you're too deep to 3B shove here.

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While our hand does have good equity vs most anything - his stack off range here includes most hands that dominate us, killing a few of our outs.

-If the board was Kd9c6d, i'd like this a lot more - more likely all of our 2pair outs are clean.

-Still, this deep, you're never gettign the $ in w/ more than 50% equity - i'd flat flop / re-eval turn. 

 

should i have shoved here?

it's slightly -ev to shove imo. the sizing is good, but i don't like it. given that you've been pretty wild, you might get action a little easier, so it could be good. it's a little hard to give a good judgement of the situation without being at the table myself etc.

however, i question the flop bet a little bit. how are you gonna respond to a raise? sure, your hand is a huge draw, but that's essentially all it is. it's a pair and a flushdraw, and you're either wafflecrushing your opponent by a mile (him having an underpair), or you're flipping or a 2-1 dog or smth. it's an interesting spot, but i'm pretty sure he'll fold the worst hand a very high % of the time (or call, just to fold turn or river), and raise you with the best hand all the time. if your opponent is paying attention, you might get a little bit looser action, but i doubt it.

this might sound unorthodox, but i rly question a bet vs his range here. checking through on the flop will give you information about his hand. i assume his range is mainly smth like 22+ and AJs+ and AQo+ and some random sc and stuff, weighing more towards stronger than weaker. vs all better aces, you're flipping. vs a set, you're 70/30-ish. therefore, i find myself more inclined to check behind and protect myself a little bit rather than betting and getting the money in. if you check flop, you might get 1 or 2 streets from 77-KK, and you might induce a bluff and you keep yourself from getting stacked/or making an unnecessarily high variance play. true enough, you can apply extra pressure when you're deeper, but you can also get a lot of money in terribly bad.

 

should i have shoved here?

ohjoy..! where have u bbeen?

good post though, thanks guys i agree 100% with what you have all said...

thanks!

 

should i have shoved here?

had some personal problems cuz i am attracted to girls with a gazillion problems, which makes me feel like shit cuz they are shit and then everything becomes shit and my poker game goes to shit cuz of this shit. nothing special.

it's sorting itself out now though.

 

should i have shoved here?

Is everyone ok with calling preflop here?  Sure you are in position, but aside from 2 pair, what kind of board are you going to make $$ on?

Personally, i call the 3-bet here alot, but i'm starting to wonder if its right.

In order to stack off, you need 2 pair or a flush here no?? (ignoring other wierd boards  678, K99, etc).  So, is it +EV to call, when you are very likely dominated.

Its hard to win a big pot on Axx, AKx, 27T.  Most opponents won't stack off on a 3 diamond board.  

Being in position, obviously you can make a few plays, but does this hand play any better than 97o ( which I muck everytime to the 3-bet)?

 

Thoughts?

Mark

 

 

should i have shoved here?

marrek wrote:

Is everyone ok with calling preflop here?  Sure you are in position, but aside from 2 pair, what kind of board are you going to make $$ on?

Personally, i call the 3-bet here alot, but i'm starting to wonder if its right.

In order to stack off, you need 2 pair or a flush here no?? (ignoring other wierd boards  678, K99, etc).  So, is it +EV to call, when you are very likely dominated.

Its hard to win a big pot on Axx, AKx, 27T.  Most opponents won't stack off on a 3 diamond board.  

Being in position, obviously you can make a few plays, but does this hand play any better than 97o ( which I muck everytime to the 3-bet)?

 

Thoughts?

Mark

 

i'm okay with calling. you're looking to make money on all the coordinated boards. if you're purely playing for the value of pairs and draws, you shouldn't call. in order to stack off for value, you need trips or a combodraw or something like that, but A9dd plays pretty well postflop.

it depends on how you roll, some ppl play tighter than others. it's not a big mistake to call if you get tricky postflop, but it's a mistake if you play fit & fold.

 

should i have shoved here?

ohjoy wrote:

had some personal problems cuz i am attracted to girls with a gazillion problems, which makes me feel like shit cuz they are shit and then everything becomes shit and my poker game goes to shit cuz of this shit. nothing special.

it's sorting itself out now though.

 

girls = -ev. lol.

hope everything is ok dude.

i have a missus, and i find ignoring her always works best... lol j/k that is defo -ev lol