In Part 1 - Tommy introduces players to the 45 Man Sit N' Go. Tommy breaks down: The Pay Structure, Basic Player Types, Basic Strategy Approach, and Pre-flop Considerations. Play continues until then 1-2 table bubbles. Part 1 of 4.
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Could you go into the shove at 22:30 a little more in-depth? I know you were around 17 BB's at the time. It's these types of situations that I need to understand. At first glance, it looked haphazard with 17BBs to me......I know it wasn't, but need to understand why. At what point in a tourney does it become "too many blinds to put at risk" vs. an EP raiser?
Lets go ahead and break the shove down at 22:30. This is deffinately a shove and its something you want to incooperate into your arsenal. We are 17bbs deep 8 handed and aq is just too good to fold here. Flatting is incorrect, folding is too nitty and shoving is the perfect play. We are trying to build our stack and this is a perfect oppertunity to gain chips. In this spot our hand looks extremely strong as well and your opponents will fold a large portion of their range, a lot of hands that beat you preflop. We are winning a healthy pot without showdown the majority of the time. In addition, to the times we are called the chances of flipping exceeds the probability of running into a monster ESP at this buyin.
One hand I really don't understand is the A10 on the top right table around the end of the vid.
I see more arguments against shoving than for shoving.
+ being the bigger stack you might scare everyone into folding
+ you might catch a donk call if you're lucky (and you did)
- you're UTG and still have everyone left to act
- you're usually only getting called by better hands or coin-flips (where you're usually not the favorite)
- chip preservation. if you get called and lose there goes half your stack. (in average)
- i think a raise UTG would look a lot stronger, a shove makes it look like u don't want a call (which is basically true, no?). but raising w A10 UTG seems like the wrong play too.
- you have shoved with worse hands and thus might not get that much respect
For me that's a fold in EP, raise in MP and raise or shove LP.
Is there something I'm missing?
Cheers
PS: is there a way to receive an email notification when someone replies to your posts? i always lose track..
do u think its good strategy to limp call 5x rasies oop on a set mine?
No unless theres 3 other people in the pot and the blinds are at the first or second level and you still have around starting stack along with 2 others as well.
hey tmoney, great sng videos btw. i've learned a lot about proper play. now i have a question, how much volume do you put in these games to come out profitable?
I've put a lot of volume in SNG's ive probably played over 40,000. When i play them i play usually anything from 25-35 games. If im playing less games it'll be the higher buyins around 200's if im playing more games itll be anything from 60's to 100's
helpful vid
I am trying to construct some shoving ranges based on your play and am wondering when you shove does that mean you should shove everything better than that in the same situation (bbs table pos etc)? for example if I see you shove q10 or kj should I be shoving small Ax in the same situation? Thanks
helpful vid I am trying to construct some shoving ranges based on your play and am wondering when you shove does that mean you should shove everything better than that in the same situation (bbs table pos etc)? for example if I see you shove q10 or kj should I be shoving small Ax in the same situation? Thanks
Yes deffinately, i discuss ranged while im shoving sometiems as well so take note
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Hey Tommy,
Could you go into the shove at 22:30 a little more in-depth? I know you were around 17 BB's at the time. It's these types of situations that I need to understand. At first glance, it looked haphazard with 17BBs to me......I know it wasn't, but need to understand why. At what point in a tourney does it become "too many blinds to put at risk" vs. an EP raiser?
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Yea agree the AQ off over the top shove at 22:45 has me scratching my head. Why is call with the 66 was horrid, please give some detail on this shove.
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Lets go ahead and break the shove down at 22:30. This is deffinately a shove and its something you want to incooperate into your arsenal. We are 17bbs deep 8 handed and aq is just too good to fold here. Flatting is incorrect, folding is too nitty and shoving is the perfect play. We are trying to build our stack and this is a perfect oppertunity to gain chips. In this spot our hand looks extremely strong as well and your opponents will fold a large portion of their range, a lot of hands that beat you preflop. We are winning a healthy pot without showdown the majority of the time. In addition, to the times we are called the chances of flipping exceeds the probability of running into a monster ESP at this buyin.
Basic User
hey tmoney,
great sng videos btw. i've learned a lot about proper play. now i have a question, how much volume do you put in these games to come out profitable?
Basic User
Hi! Great vid!
One hand I really don't understand is the A10 on the top right table around the end of the vid.
I see more arguments against shoving than for shoving.
+ being the bigger stack you might scare everyone into folding
+ you might catch a donk call if you're lucky (and you did)
- you're UTG and still have everyone left to act
- you're usually only getting called by better hands or coin-flips (where you're usually not the favorite)
- chip preservation. if you get called and lose there goes half your stack. (in average)
- i think a raise UTG would look a lot stronger, a shove makes it look like u don't want a call (which is basically true, no?). but raising w A10 UTG seems like the wrong play too.
- you have shoved with worse hands and thus might not get that much respect
For me that's a fold in EP, raise in MP and raise or shove LP.
Is there something I'm missing?
Cheers
PS: is there a way to receive an email notification when someone replies to your posts? i always lose track..
Basic User
do u think its good strategy to limp call 5x rasies oop on a set mine?
Plus Team
No unless theres 3 other people in the pot and the blinds are at the first or second level and you still have around starting stack along with 2 others as well.
Plus Team
I've put a lot of volume in SNG's ive probably played over 40,000. When i play them i play usually anything from 25-35 games. If im playing less games it'll be the higher buyins around 200's if im playing more games itll be anything from 60's to 100's
Basic User
do u think that turbos are btter bread winners then non-turbos?
Basic User
helpful vid
I am trying to construct some shoving ranges based on your play and am wondering when you shove does that mean you should shove everything better than that in the same situation (bbs table pos etc)? for example if I see you shove q10 or kj should I be shoving small Ax in the same situation? Thanks
Plus Team
Yes deffinately, i discuss ranged while im shoving sometiems as well so take note