You can be almost sure someone has straight/flush.
If that's true, you only can hope another 4/6 is coming, because you know you'll face another bet on the turn. And the fact that your opponents are tight players would it safe to fold this one.

by FASTA on August 17, 2007 (login to reply)

Like written before I also would be sure I`m already beaten by a str8 or more likely by a flush and if not the chances are pretty high I will be with the turn or rivercard ....and I wouldnt risk a huge amount of my stack hoping the board pairs for my full ...... I only lost 14$ but call the raise and the re-raise to 120$? -- nope, Fold

by HungryEyes on August 17, 2007 (login to reply)

Obvious fold here. The power of the button is not to bet sometimes. You've got three fives against a tight aggressive player in a tight aggressive game with the pre-flop raiser still to act on the cut-offs raise. Maybe this is a game of chicken, but even if, I'd say get out now. $14 is all you've spent and you're almost certainly throwing good money after bad at this point. The only thing you can hope to beat is a high pocket pair or three fours. And you have no good draws except the fourth five and a paired board. Any spade, and a whole bunch of low cards, could fill a flush or straight assuming you aren't already looking at one or the other or both. And a high card could make someone else a bigger set, assuming someone doesn't already have one.
Looking back at the betting it might be reasonable that the pre-flop raiser had a high pair, although to read that with certainty, one would need to know the game and players, not just "tight aggressive". The bet on the flop could have been a continuation or for real. Again, that's a matter of read that is impossible here. Assuming the cut off is a solid player, the big raise is at least a semi-bluff probably to both straight and flush. The three fives might hold up against a semi-bluff that didn't hit and a high pair that didn't either, or they might not. I think that's probably the most optimistic possibility here. If I could get that read from both of them, I might push if I was certain and wanted to gamble.
Even if I'm right, there are all kinds of ways I can lose, though. And, if I am right, I stand to win just what's on the table. If I'm wrong, I'll lose my whole stack. Doesn't seem sensible to do anything else but push, because this isn't going to cool down on the turn or river and my draws are weak. It's definitely now or never and I like never for this hand. Next time I get the button I may be looking into weakness and can get more than the fourteen bucks I threw in this time.

by Mahakala on August 17, 2007 (login to reply)

Really easy fold no reason for hoping another five or 46. Even with those you might get up against straight flush.

by ProbePro on August 17, 2007 (login to reply)

There is a possiblity that the Original raiser has an over pair and that is why they bet out maybe they have K-K or Q-Q with a spade and the thier hand. Since the cuttoff plays tight aggressive I would guess that they also have two pair and are protecing their hand, have a hand similar to that of the original raiser or maybe a hand like A-7 or A-8 with the Aof spades so if the turn. If a scare card comes then you can let it go but, if nothing comes and it is checked to you then you can push all in.

by king chip23 on August 17, 2007 (login to reply)

I would push that one 'cause I wouldn't expect anybody in early position to raise with something lower than JJ, QQ, KK, AA or any suited combination of these cards - especially when the table is tight-aggressive! Of course there is the chance to run against a suited AK or something like that, but that would be just very bad luck. Even if the initial raiser raises and the cut off reraises I wouldn't be very impressed - 'cause that is just usual when the board shows low cards. You just have to think about the situation the raisers are in: what would you do holdin' KK or AA and the board shows these cards?? Well I would try to protect my hand as much as I can! -> raise or reraise! Considering all that you probably have the best hand at this moment: the set is on top! And don't forget about the chance to get your house full - even if somebody is reachin' for the flush. So my opinion is clear: RERAISE ALL-IN!!!!!

by chipleedah on August 17, 2007 (login to reply)