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I think I muffed this, but where? - NL$50

Read: 

SB is 18/13 over a decent sample. Doesn't 3-bet often, but every one I've seen has come out of the SB vs an LP raise. 

CO is LAG like 27/24 over about 100 hands, can fold though. 

I've been fairly tight at this table, but have opened up a bit the last few orbits. 

Rest of the table are fish. 

Preflop:

Planning on folding, but now that everyone has called, I'm getting 4.3-1 and I'm thinking it's kinda marginal. I make position the deciding factor and call giving the SB a JJ+,AK range making me a 29% dog. Obviously, I'm looking for more than top pair to go nuts post-flop. 

Flop: 

Interesting check around. Pretty decent flop for me. TP+GSSD. I make kind of a feeler bet. If I'm raised, I'm pretty sure I'm dumping. Also looking to get a free card if called.  I'm 36% against SB's range on the flop, although he's much more likely to check some hands than others. Should I have checked behind and taken the free one or is my hand actually strong enough to bet here? 

Turn: 

One of the worst/best cards in the deck for me? My equity actually improved to 38% against that range. But I really don't know which of those hands he'd check again. I'm getting 2.64-1 on a shove if he actually has that range, which kinda technically makes it about right, especially if you add any FE at all. So, check or shove? 

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:

UTG   ($57.45)  
UTG+1   ($78.10)  
CO   ($49.25)  
Hero   ($49.25)  
SB   ($50.35)  
BB   ($94.00)  


Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BTN

UTG calls $0.50 ($56.95), 1 fold, CO raises to $1.50 ($47.75), Hero calls $1.50 ($47.75), SB raises to $6.50 ($43.60), 1 fold, UTG calls $6 ($50.95), CO calls $5 ($42.75), Hero calls $5 ($42.75)

Flop: ($26.50, 4 players)
SB checks ($43.85), UTG checks ($50.95), CO checks ($42.75), Hero bets $12 ($30.75), SB calls $12 ($31.85), UTG folds ($50.95), CO folds ($42.75)

Turn: ($50.50, 2 players)
SB checks ($31.85), Hero ??? ($30.75 left)

 

So where did I go wrong? 

 

Full results (w/ actual equity): 

http://weaktight.com/363965

 

 


I think I muffed this, but where? - NL$50

check back the turn, and see what happens.?

 If you shove, you are representing 2 pair or better, so you never get called by worse ( or shouldn't anyway).   So you're not really value betting, you're semi-bluffing.

Villians range should be big cards/big pairs.  if he was squeezing, smaller pairs and suited/connectors, maybe random bluffs. 

His check call in terrible position says he has something, probably more like a monster than anything.

Check and see.  It sucks if he shows you AQ here, but thats about the only hand that can fold, that has you beat.

 

mark

 

I think I muffed this, but where? - NL$50

I think you went wrong calling the 3-bet preflop this is a very marginal hand to be calling a decent sized 3-bet, the only real thing you have here is position on the two villans, kq is a very second best type hand in 3-bet pots because you are crushed by aq, ak, aa, kk, qq which i think his range is very close to here and folding would have been the better route here imo

 

I think I muffed this, but where? - NL$50

jonnyj008 wrote:
I think you went wrong calling the 3-bet preflop this is a very marginal hand to be calling a decent sized 3-bet, the only real thing you have here is position on the two villans, kq is a very second best type hand in 3-bet pots because you are crushed by aq, ak, aa, kk, qq which i think his range is very close to here and folding would have been the better route here imo

I think you're right. However, even as you say, it's still super marginal probly.  

 

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check back the turn, and see what happens.?

If you shove, you are representing 2 pair or better, so you never get
called by worse ( or shouldn't anyway).   So you're not really value
betting, you're semi-bluffing.

Villians range should be big cards/big pairs.  if he was squeezing, smaller pairs and suited/connectors, maybe random bluffs. 

His check call in terrible position says he has something, probably more like a monster than anything.

Check and see.  It sucks if he shows you AQ here, but thats about the only hand that can fold, that has you beat.

 

mark

I don't think he has trash, especially if he called that flop bet. He has to fold AQ on the flop too. 

I don't get called by worse, but I was really thinking he might have QQ on the turn. I figure either he reads me as a bluff and calls that hand, folds, or at worst calls and still have decent equity. If my range for him is correct, that push is slightly +EV. 

However, on a double digit stack downswing, I might want to start reducing my variance a little and a check behind would certainly do that. 

When I come back to this hand though, I just keep looking at the flop. I'm just so unsure about it and keep asking myself what I could/should have done that would be better.